Showing posts with label Zillow. Show all posts
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September 18, 2007

The Sacred Commission: 3 Reasons Why Commissions Will Come Down.


During the housing boom, agents and mortgage brokers have done extremely well. In fact, word spread so quickly that we have seen large increases in the number of people making career shifts into the housing industry. From 1989 to 2001, the membership numbers for National Association of Realtors was around 800,000. However, from 2002 to 2007 we see a dramatic and steady increase to approximately 1.4 million active members. Why the sudden increase when for over a decade, membership numbers stayed relatively stable? Welcome to the world of basic economics. The fact that money was to be made in the industry and low barriers for entry, many folks decided to roll the dice and take a chance with real estate. Simple supply and demand. In addition, with a booming market and lending standards so low that you can smell the floor, selling homes and lending money seemed to be a no brainer. Prices kept going up in double-digit sprints and many in the industry saw this as a locked in yearly wage increase. After all, if your income derives on the underlying asset price and the price keeps going up, it is by default that you will make more money since you are paid a percentage of what a home would sell for. This was all fueled by easy credit in every aspect of life. For 7 years it seemed that housing would go up ad infinitum.

The housing market is now entering the first stages of a multi-year bear market. 2007 has seen the loss of 155+ lending institutions. Over 100,000 individuals have lost their lending related jobs. Many entering neophytes are victims of poor timing. They read and listened to the housing bull books and seminars 7 years too late. Many seasoned agents and brokers realize that housing ebbs and flows. These housing veterans have sufficient contacts to weather the storm and will try to hold the fort down during these down times. From my experience in the industry and simply looking at the wage earnings for agents, it is apparent that he Pareto Principle holds true for this industry. Vilfredo Pareto, an Italian civil engineer, observed that 80 percent of the wealth in Italy was owned by 20 percent of the population. How does this apply to agents? In the case of superstar selling agents, it is the case that 80 percent of the sales happen via 20 percent of the top producing sellers. They have deep contact lists and other attributes that make them successful. When you look at the median earnings of real estate agents in the U.S., you’d be surprised by what you find. A good agent is someone that can sell a home when no one else is able to do so. See, the last few years even amateurs were able to sell homes and oversights were masked by a booming housing market. Sort of like venture capitalist throwing money at any prospective company with a dot com in its name during the raging tech boom.

Capitalism is a great thing if you let it run its course without government intervention. For example, now that the housing market is slowing down many companies are falling flat on their faces for running poor businesses. The 155+ lenders that have imploded this year are victims of inefficient business models and the market is taking care of them. After all, these companies were raking in money during the boom times. Good businesses are built with diversification to weather multiple storms. Take a look at Proctor and Gamble and General Electric. During the good times, they ventured into other businesses that allowed them to have a buffer should one industry sector falter. Many of the lenders that are now defunct saw returns too appetizing in the housing industry. Instead of going into more conservative ventures with their revenues or build war chests, they decideded to reinvest into a business model that was unsupportable.

The internet is now a ubiquitous part of life in the U.S. Everyone uses Google to search for answers. If you don’t know the answer to a complex question, you can go to Google and find not only one response but probably a few thousand. Information is power. Even in the 90s, buying a home was a challenge because you didn’t have access to all the important pieces of information. If you wanted previous sales data, you would need to go to the clerks office or pay a title company to dig up the information. Most people never bothered to look at previous tax records. And finding comparable sales? The only viable source was the MLS which was under lock and key by the housing industry. Now with the advent of Zillow, ZipRealty, Redfin, HelpUSell, and other do it yourself services information on homes is no longer hard to find. The LA Times had a great article this Sunday about selling your home with different services. Do you want to know the previous sales price? This will be easy to find. What about comparable sales? Not only can you get this information but you will have it nicely displayed via a satellite hybrid image that you can sort out. And the best thing is most of these services are free or cost a small price. And in a market where 6 percent can mean the difference between you breaking even or going into a short-sale, many folks are opting to use discount services or doing it themselves.

So why will commissions drop? Here are three further reasons for the inevitable drop in commissions:

Misnomer: Only the Seller Pays the Fee

You always here this argument thrown out. Buyers shouldn’t hesitate in using an agent because it is the seller that pays the fee. The way the process is currently setup, the seller pays the typical 5 to 6 percent commission fee and should a buyer’s agent bring a worthy customer, will get a cut of the percent. This can be anywhere from 2.5 to 3 percent. So why is this a misconception? Like a stock that pays a dividend, the market already factors this into the price. You aren’t really getting the service for free because the underlying price is inflated to reflect this market standard. But as standards shift, say commissions go to a lower rate or flat fees, the price of the home will reflect the difference. We are already seeing this here in California where market pressure and multiple options are giving consumers different choices. And sellers that went 0, 3, or 5 percent down realize that 6 percent may be their entire equity, are willing to find creative ways to sell a home. Keep in mind in a hot market where the median price for Los Angeles County is $550,000, 6 percent is $33,000. As a seller, you may think twice about paying this especially in a tighter market.

This priced in model happens in many financial instruments. If you look at options that are nearing a dividend pay date, the market has already priced this into the premium. So you really aren’t getting a good deal even though this is a sort of slight of hand financial gain. And many professionals will argue that you can’t get the service that they can provide at a lower cost. This may be true depending on the person you hire. But look at the professional Hovnanian Enterprises cutting prices in their Deal of a Century campaign to unload homes. In some cases, these professionals are lowering prices by $100,000. Now that will get your attention. And these homes are new units so you don’t really need to worry about wear and tear and in many cases, these builders are now offering financing to move inventory. You can see why a downward market will put pressures on commissions.

Access to Information: MLS, Competition, Down Market

Have you used Zillow? Know about Craigslist? Ever browsed homes on ZipRealty? Then you are benefiting from the competition brought on by the industry. Many of these companies realize that you can make money from other venues such as advertising and taking a lower fee and making it up on volume. They realize that a small piece of $550,000 is enough money to invest millions of dollars into new business models. In addition, the competition is now fierce since sales are dropping and credit is tight, so now your option may be limited to a few qualified buyers that are absolutely determined to buy right now. A good agent is now earning his money trying to sell a home. No longer are multiple offers coming in like the good days. The market is now different. Many new industry folks are unable to deal with a down housing market and are going into this as a trial by fire. This is their first experience with a down market. And the last 7 years were a complete anomaly so anyone thinking we will be back to that is hoping for a deal of a century that will not come again for another century.

It is easy to find information on comparable home sales. You can easily access previous sale prices. These companies at the vanguard are finding that many buyers and sellers are willing to get their hands dirty if that means they will save $20,000 to $80,000. I always get a kick out when the rebuttal is, “well I wouldn’t expect to pilot a plane just because it is cheaper.” Flying a plane is not like selling a house. Doing heart surgery is not the same as showing an open house. There is a clear difference. Will it require work if you decide to do it? Of course. Just like owning a rental property. You will have issues come up but that is why you are rewarded financially. Otherwise, everyone would be doing it. Even savvy attorneys, title companies, and discount brokers are capitalizing on this market. If you are too lazy to review sales on Zillow or ZipRealty, drive around and see a few comparable homes, and read one of the thousands of real estate books out there then yes, maybe you should fork over your money to an expert.

Cost of Housing: People Will get Dirty for Tens of Thousands

When you are selling a $100,000 home in a slow market with few buyers, agents do earn every penny for their hard work if they bring a qualified buyer and the deal closes. Many agents across the US are not in prime areas and the percentage is not that much in nominal terms. But in the last few years, if you managed to get a listing in SoCal all you needed to do was list it in the MLS (if that) for $600,000 in a decent area and you would get multiple offers. In fact, sellers even put into their listings “sold as is” expecting buyers to put up or shut up. And guess what? Homes sold without inspections many times. Lenders couldn’t careless since banana republic mortgages were being bought by investors. So the sellers were in absolute control. It was the best sellers market in decades. It’ll be interesting to see how those in the housing industry that haven’t seen a downturn will react to this market shift (remember the jump of 600,000 NAR members since the boom?). Many of course are calling for a bailout and corporate welfare but this has little chance of making any impact in California or other high priced areas where prices are disconnected from the reality umbilical cord.

Many sellers that bought in 2004, 2005, 2006, and even 2007 that are looking to sell are quickly realizing that 6 percent is a big deal especially if they are swimming underwater. Any smart agent realizes that in slow markets quality buyers must be courted with lower prices and this may include rebates. No amount of marketing or savvy advertising will make a lender fund a buyer; you may have a willing buyer but if they don’t get financed, the deal is going nowhere. The market is changing and to be honest, those in housing will have to revert to old school ways of doing things. Adding repairs and sprucing up houses to catch a now dwindling amount of buyers. Throwing in discounts if possible. More aggressive marketing directed to bringing in qualified buyers (take note on Hovnanian advertising approach). And no, we are not even remotely close to a bottom. We had a 7 year housing bull market and only in late 2006, did we shift into a slower housing bear market. Heck, Los Angeles County returned back to its historical median record price of $550,000 last month so we haven’t seen a correction here. Expect this to last 3 to 4 years. Moreover, these new services are built to cater to price conscious buyers and sellers; in down markets with tighter credit, nothing is more precious than price.



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June 12, 2007

Dr. Housing Bubble Celebrates Monumental 100th Post! Top 10 Housing Articles.



I’m in a celebratory mood. Today marks our 100th post on Dr. Housing Bubble! While reviewing the archives of previous posts, it turns out that I’ve written over 300 pages worth of housing bubble information since October of 2006. Easily enough to fill a book. We’ve also covered 25 Real Homes of Genius exposing the extraordinary housing bubble in Southern California.

Two years ago it was difficult to find solid mainstream academic articles covering the housing bubble. Now, it is a challenge parsing so much information into a succinct article. It is comparable to drinking water out of a fire hydrant. Alternatively a better comparison would be, “like being part of the audit team at New Century Financial.” While I gather more information for another article, I wanted to leave you with the Top 10 articles on Dr. Housing Bubble over the past year. This should be a great primer for anyone new to the site or for those veterans that would like to play armchair quarterback and realize that we saw this coming long ago.

#10 - Manias, Panics, and Crashes: 2007 First Quarter All-Stars – Foreclosures, Subprime, and Politics. Five Characteristics of a Housing Bubble.

Examining five stages of an asset bubble. Speculation, Credit Expansion, Financial Distress at Peak, Crisis, and finally Crash and Panic.

#9 - Lying Dirty Scoundrels of Housing: 3 Additional Factors to the Housing Explosion: Money Supply, Consumer Inflation, and Celebrities?

Where do you think the money for this housing bubble came from? This article takes a look at the money supply and how consumer inflation is vastly understated. Oh, and we also look at Trump’s the Apprentice for good measure.

#8 - Housing Premonition: When You Knew it in Your Gut That Housing is Overpriced.

When your gut says no but your mortgage broker says yes! Understanding the nature of snap judgments and how this affects market psychology toward housing. Wall Street owned the subprime market and we saw how quickly things turned sour for this market niche once Wall Street lost the appetite for high risk loans.

#7 - Zillow is Off by a Small Amount. Try $250,000 off with Proof!

An oldie but goodie. A short article showing the difficulty Zillow has in determining accurate prices in overpriced markets with quickly changing inventory and lots of mortgage fraud. When this article posted in November, I was getting doubters saying that subprime would continue its strong momentum upward. Oh really?

#6 - $640 Billion in Sub-prime Loans Originated. $386 Billion in Alt-A Loans Originated. $1.026 Trillion in Loans at Risk? Priceless.

Leverage is king in this market. Amazing how a company worth $80 million at one point was able to have $8.4 billion in loans outstanding. This article looks at the quick fall of share prices that many subprime lenders encountered during the subprime debacle.

#5 - Why Did the Housing Phenomenon Spread? 3 Key Reasons for a Social Epidemic: Housing Connectors; Mavens; and Salespeople.

Housing spread like wildfire. Many people played into this game but 3 kinds of key people were paramount in accelerating the housing bubble. We have the housing connectors, mavens, and salespeople.

#4 - Yearly Income, $14,000. Purchase of House, $720,000. Have we All Lost our Minds???

I think the title says it all on this one. The much touted $14,000 a year farmer being able to purchase a $720,000 home. Read the article to find out if his income was able to support the monthly payment.

#3 - Real Homes of Genius: Special Edition, Lifestyles of the Poor and Notorious. 10 Southern California Homes that Prove a Gargantuan Housing Bubble.

The ultimate Real Homes of Genius article. Not only do we look at one overpriced home, but we examine 10 homes in 5 counties! This bubble is equal opportunity across all of Southern California. At least it doesn’t discriminate right?

#2 - America’s Codependence on Housing: 30% of Job Growth Contributed by Real Estate. 5 Point Plan on how the Bubble Will Burst.

When 30% of your job growth is contributed by real estate since 2000, we got some massive issues. We also hear how diverse and stratified our economy is but we haven’t put this to the test with a declining housing market. Read the article for the 5 point plan of how this bubble will burst. So far it looks like we’re heading down this path.

#1 - The Housing Tipping Point. 3 Factors That Will Burst the Bubble: The Negative Wealth Effect, Negative Press, and Suffocating Debt Payments.

The article title says it all. Last year the housing market was on its last leg but the press was still cheer leading and David Lereah was still the NAR’s chief economist. So much has changed since 2006. What tipped the housing market into the doldrums? Well for one the press isn’t so housing friendly anymore.

And there you have it. The Top 10 articles based on your readership. As the housing bubble continues to deflate, more and more organic searches are hitting this website. It seems that Joe and Susie public are concerned about their mortgages resetting. When they try to contact their mortgage broker many times they are finding he/she/it is no longer employed with the same lending operation. Welcome to summer of 2007. I have so many articles and nuggets of information that I want to share with you. In the meantime, read up on these articles and you’ll have a solid understanding of the housing and credit bubble we are currently living in.

I also want to thank you for being a great community. What started out as a little tightly knit community is now a growing network of thousands of daily visitors. Here’s to another solid year of housing analysis!



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March 29, 2007

The Ultimate Home Buyers Guide. 6 Critical Sites for Researching Your Next Home.


My sentiments regarding the current housing market are very clear. Do not buy in overpriced metropolitan areas. However, there are many of you out there that are ready to buy and plan on staying in a place for multiple years. If you have already committed to taking this plunge, there are a few absolute must websites that you will need to checkout before signing those closing documents. Let us begin with our top six sites:

#1 – www.zillow.com

Although Zillow may not be the most accurate tool for researching homes in tanking markets, it is an absolute must for any real estate buyer. Prior to Zillow, you would need to go to an individual County archives or website to research and dig up previous sales data. With Zillow, all you need is an address and a zip code. In addition, you can view recent sales in the neighborhood and price accordingly. A good measure is finding out the average price per square foot. Not all homes have previous sales data because owners may have bought before accurate records were available. In all my investing and researching I have found that Zillow goes back to 1992 with pretty good accuracy. There is also a “make me move” feature which current owners can name their price on moving; if anything it is amazing to see delusional pipe dream prices.

#2 – www.trulia.com

Another excellent site that can give you information regarding a specific community. Is this community hot? What is the median price for 90210? What is the average sales price in said community? Trulia is a great resource that allows you to view “heat maps” of certain regions. This is useful in seeing whether a community is isolated in appreciation growth or is common to the region. The color coding and mapping make this a must for visual folks who tire out by looking at Census data and rather see a mapped out representation of that data.

#3 - www.realtor.com

What is this? I’m actually recommending a realtor website? Well yes because the MLS is still primarily in the domain of a few folks and you need this information to make accurate assessments of a piece of real estate. One of the best features is searching for rentals via the zipcode function. If anything, the rental market should reflect a semblance of the price you are willing to pay for the home. Search first with homes for sale and then for rentals. Since pretty much most homes are reflected here you’ll get a good idea of what price you should expect to pay and also whether the market is overpriced.

#4 – www.craigslist.com

Craigslist is a fabulous site. I’ve found great deals on absolutely everything here. From rentals in foreign countries to great sporting tickets. But this is also a fantastic place to get real estate information. Just like realtor.com you can search for rentals and homes for sale. If anything, take this information as a quick slice of the market. Many investors post their rentals on here so you can gage by the language of the post whether the market is hot or not. In cold markets you may see wording such as “no deposit” or “free months rent.” These are key insights into a market you may be unfamiliar with. In addition you get a slice of the market that is hardcore for sale by owner. These folks don’t want to deal with traditional avenues of marketing their property and go straight to the consumer, you.

#5 – Google Maps

Do you ever wonder if you’re buying near power lines? Maybe a nuclear plant is in your backyard. Maybe your home is next to the 5 freeway. How would you know by simply looking at a snapshot of the house from the front. Google Maps is an amazing tool that you’ve probably used multiple times. It is amazing how many people I know that didn’t realize they were buying a property near a jail, freeway, school, etc. There is no reason for you not to know this. In addition, you can download Google Earth for your desktop and attach specific filters that highlight businesses, museums, and other key artifacts. There is no reason you shouldn’t spend a few hours looking at the geography of the area you are putting $500,000 on.

#6 – Census.gov

How much do people earn in a certain area? What is the crime rate? Do most people in this neighborhood have high school degrees? What is the vacancy rate? You’ll be surprised how much information you can find at the Census website. I’m a firm believer that the people that inhabit the area have a lot to do with long-term appreciation and rental cash-flow if you are an investor. It only takes a few hours but you can get a full understanding of the area you are going into. I’m not saying become and geographic systems expert but at least what you are buying into. You can even get net migration figures for areas. Amazing what is available to you online for free.

In conclusion I would say that these are 6 key sites in researching your future purchase. This goes without saying that you should also hire a competent inspector and get an unbiased appraisal. Have a real estate attorney look over your closing documents. If only a larger portion of folks buying homes took their mortgage papers to real estate attorneys we wouldn’t be in the mess we are in.

My sentiments on housing still remain; do not buy in high priced areas. This goes for pretty much all of Southern and Northern California. If you feel the itch to buy and have a comfortable down payment lock it into a 1 year CD. If you still have that itch in April of 2008 go for it and drop your money into the home after careful research. Afterall, where is that home going that you are in such a rush? They’re not making any more land but they’re not making anymore Beta machines either.

March 20, 2007

Real Homes of Genius: Today we Salute you Pacoima. Zillow says $457,000 but Listed at $225,000?


Real Homes of Genius: Today we Salute you Pacoima. Zillow says $457,000 but Listed at $225,000? Who Would Have thought 770 Square Feet Would Cause Such a Discrepancy!

It is official. No one knows what the hell is going on with prices in Southern California housing. Why? I present to you exhibit number one in the up and coming city of Pacoima. Today we salute a wonderful 2 bedroom 1 bath home sprawling over 770 square feet of luscious terrain. This place is so magnificent that you can park your entourage of vehicles on the lawn. The place was originally listed at $250,000 but is currently reduced to $225,000. What! $200,000 homes in Southern California? Yes, I know what you are saying, “but Dr. Housing Bubble, this is Southern California, the chosen land and homes do not sell for under $300,000, this is written.” Although what I am presenting may seem like housing blasphemy Zillow is still living in the Wonderland of what use to be Southern California Circa 2005. Let us take a look at what Zillow expects this property to sell for:



Wow, off by $232,000. Bwahahah! Zillow is off the amount of the home. Maybe they need to tweak their algorithm a bit for prime cities like Pacoima and Compton. Let us dig into tax records and see what this house sold for in the past:

Sale History

01/21/1998: $133,370
05/10/1993: $133,000

Damn! Approximately five years and we have a whopping $370 price increase. I’m sure when they sold in 1998 they figured the $370 would be for the security (read fence) they installed for your automobiles. Crazy crazy California. Again if you are to listen to the pundits, you would be overpaying thousands of hard earned dollars in locations where the family median income is barely $40,000 a year. I can only imagine how many out of state investors loaded up on California properties simply because they were listed in California.

Today we salute you Pacoima with our Real Homes of Genius Award. You are so brilliant you defy the massive mathematical power crunching abilities of our friends at Zillow.

February 22, 2007

Real Homes of Genius: $80,000 off in San Fernando for 865 Square Feet of Joy!



You can tell we are in Los Angeles when the Oscars role into town, 80 degree weather in the middle of winter, and the smell of overpriced boxes rotting while inventory amounts. Yes, this is Southern California. Today we salute San Fernando for giving us the next Real Home of Genius. Today’s example is an exquisite 865 square foot masterpiece in wonderful San Fernando. Initially, these folks set the price back in September at $455,000 but felt this was too low so they boosted it up to $465,000. Let us take a look at the manic pricing below:



As you can see, they dabbled in little token drops here and there until this month they realized they had to make some drastic cuts. Nothing more motivated than a seller leaving the country in an imploding market. Here is another case of yesteryear housing syndrome while wearing rose colored glasses wishing for peak price levels like children hoping for Santa Clause. So you feel bad for these folks, heck they already dropped the price by $80,000 from their peak level right? Well let us dig a little deeper:



So don’t fell too bad, even at the current selling price minus 6 percent for selling fees they will profit by $86,900 (maybe that is there logic in dropping the price; we give you $80,000 and you give us $80,000). Unfortunately this home has been on the market for 5 months and not much interest either. In addition, with the collapse of the subprime market not many folks would have 10 percent down to come into this property and carry a beastly monthly nut on a regular 30 year fixed. Yes the relics of the past those 30 year fixed mortgages.

We salute you San Fernando with today’s Real Homes of Genius Award.

November 30, 2006

Zillow is Off by a Small Amount. Try $250,000 off with Proof!

I have found how Zillow prices their homes. Please, this is definitely confidential information so I hope that we can keep this between us bloggers. I have found their head algorithm engineers and took a snap shot of their insanely accurate “Zestimate” figures. Here is the clandestine photo that I took of their uncanny picking abilities:



In all seriousness, let me show you an example of how off they really are. Below is a Zestimate of a home in San Diego county:



Zestimate: $848,926

Sale History

06/07/2006: $670,520
10/03/2005: $790,000
10/25/2004: $725,000

Currently this home is REO and is listed at $614,000. So Zillow is off by exactly $234,926! Are you kidding me? I wish I would have gotten away in graduate school with approximation like this. Can you imagine if you worked as a teller at a bank and you told your manager “yeah, I’m only off today by $15,992.32.” Your manager would smile and probably report you to the authorities once you stepped out of the building. This is only one case example of how distorted the current housing market is. When banks start getting more and more properties as REOs such as this one we will begin to see how shady the mortgage lending and housing construct has become. There needs to be some purging that happens in the next few years.

This home on the Dr. HousingBubble scale rates as:



What overpriced homes have you come across?